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Session 11. Monday Morning, April 30, 2012

SESSION 11. Monday Morning, April 30, 2012
9:04@skynewsgathererGareth's body was removed from the bottom of the bag - not via the zipped opening
9:05@skynewsgathererTwo hairs were found on Gareth's thumb
9:08@skynewsgathererDr Swift says that if someone was already dead when moved there would be no bruising
WITNESS: Benjamin Swift
9:09@skynewsgathererDr Swift says that in cases of smothering there are often no marks left
9:11@skynewsgathererDr Swift found a 0.6cm bruise to left forearm, graze to left elbow and 0.7 graze to right elbow, and inner left eye socket
9:12@skynewsgathererDr Swift says injuries likely to have been caused after death due to position in the bag
9:14@skynewsgathererNo injuries in Gareth's neck, or head, there were 3 internal bruises to loin, elbow and right chest wall. No bruising around wrists
9:17@skynewsgathererDr Swift says injuries could have been caused accidentally. No signs of obvious poisoning
9:18@skynewsgathererNo obvious signs of natural disease
9:19@skynewsgathererPathologist: No significant traumatic injury, no injuries of offensive or defence nature, no sexual assault
9:20@skynewsgathererPathologist Dr Swift could not confirm cause of death
9:21@skynewsgathererPathologist tells coroner there we no signs from Gareth's finger tips that he tried to get out the bag
9:23@skynewsgathererCause of death could not be ascertained due to decomposition of Gareth's body, pathologist says
9:26@skynewsgathererFamily lawyer now asking questions about how decomposition affected results of PM. Inquest hears how the heating was on in August
9:27@skynewsgathererDr Swift refuses to speculate on what might have caused Gareth's death
9:29@skynewsgathererWhen pushed Dr says asphyxiation and poison were two 'foremost contenders' to be most likely cause of death
9:33@skynewsgathererExperienced pathologist Dr Ian Calder performed 2nd PM
WITNESS: Ian Calder
9:35@skynewsgathererDr Calder says he agrees with Dr Swift that if Gareth had been moved after death he wouldn't have sustained bruises
9:36@skynewsgathererDr Calder agrees that cause of death was 'unascertained'
9:40@skynewsgathererDr Calder explains that it's not so much the lack of oxygen in bag - but the build up of carbon dioxide
9:42@skynewsgathererCO2 makes people confused which would make someone 'fade away with no pain and increasing lack of awareness of environment' says witness
9:46@skynewsgathererDr Calder says 'very likely' cause of death was hypercapnia (too much carbon dioxide in blood)
9:54@skynewsgathererDr Richard Shepherd, acting for the coroner, now giving evidence. He agrees with other 2 pathologists
WITNESS: Richard Shepherd
9:55@skynewsgathererDr Shepherd found no patterns of injuries and no restraining injuries
9:56@skynewsgathererDr Shepherd says it would have been 'extremely difficult' to place a newly dead body into the bag
9:57@skynewsgathererDr Shepherd says a person 'playing dead' is not same as an actual dead body. His experience is that it would be 'very difficult process'
9:58@skynewsgathererDr says that if Gareth was alive going in bag he would have expected some 'gripping injuries'
9:59@skynewsgathererDr says it's more likely that Gareth was alive when he entered the bag than dead
10:01@skynewsgathererDr agrees 'mode of dying' was most likely carbon dioxide
10:03@skynewsgathererDr says two possibilities of cause of death were suffocation or poisoning
10:05@skynewsgathererInquest hears that although cause of death is unascertained Gareth's death is 'unnatural'
10:09@stone_skynewsPathologist says in his opinion Gareth Williams death was unnatural and caused either by poisoning or suffocation because of too much CO2
10:09@skynewsgathererDr Shepherd says it is possible that Gareth voluntarily got into the bag
10:11@skynewsgathererDr: Gareth would probably have been aware oxygen was running out but not known at what stage this would happen
10:13@skynewsgathererPathologist suggesting Gareth would have known air was running out but he may already have been too affected by Co2 to do anything about it
10:16@skynewsgathererTo sum up - on balance of probability Gareth was alive getting into bag and would have had some awareness, says witness
10:17@skynewsgathererOn balance of probability the mode of dying was hypercapnia but cause of death unascertained
10:25@skynewsgathererPathologists says the youngest & fittest can survive hypercapnia the longest
10:26@skynewsgathererInquest taking short break. Then will hear from forensic scientists on DNA evidence
10:58@skynewsgathererInquest resumes with evidence from coroner officer's Barry May
WITNESS: Barry May
10:59@skynewsgathererMr May was asked to investigate by previous coroner after family raised concerns about 2nd PM examination
11:02@skynewsgathererRequest for 2nd independent PM didn't follow protocol due to inexperience of a worker the coroner's office
11:07@skynewsgathererPolice, family and first pathologist weren't told of 2nd examination when they should have been
11:12@skynewsgathererInquest told of 'communication breakdown' in the former coroner's office in regard to 2nd PM examination
11:16@skynewsgathererStatement now from Tony Larkin, a scientist from forensic firm LGC. He looked of bloodstains, DNA and hairs
WITNESS: Tony Larkin
11:19@skynewsgathererMr Larkin found a spot of blood near lights switch and an 'aged' spot of blood on the floor
11:23@skynewsgathererMr Larkin says possible bloodstain on bag - but very weak result
11:24@skynewsgathererAlso weak blood spot on the padlock
11:26@skynewsgathererMr Larkin actually works for Met Police - witness list was incorrect
11:36@skynewsgathererInquest hears that an error in logging DNA means that Gareth's family thought there was evidence of 3rd party
11:37@skynewsgathererDNA was actually from another scientist - error was only found when case was reviewed
11:41@skynewsgathererInquest now adjourned until 2pm
END OF SESSION 11. Monday Morning, April 30, 2012

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Session 1. Monday Morning, April 23, 2012

SESSION 1. Monday Morning, April 23, 2012
CORONER: Fiona Wilcox
9:27@skynewsgathererCoroner resumes inquest into death of MI6 code breaker Gareth Williams
9:28@skymartinbruntCoroner expresses sympathy to family and says they are still grieving
9:28@skynewsgathererCoroner Fiona Wilcox allows tweeting - just as long it doesn't cause distraction
9:30@skymartinbruntfamily lawyer says happy to have Mr Williams referred to as Gareth
9:31@skynewsgathererCoroner outlining her role and how evidence will be submitted and tested
9:31@skynewsgathererNo evidence will be taken in closed hearing says coroner
9:31@skymartinbruntCoroner says four questions to be answered....who died where when and how
9:32@skymartinbruntCoroner says it was highly controversial death
9:33@skymartinbruntCoroner says there will be no evidence in secret
9:33@skynewsgathererDue to nature of Gareth Williams work - some witnesses will be giving evidence anonymously
9:34@skymartinbruntsome identities will be hidden
9:36@skymartinbruntFamily don't oppose anonymity of some witnesses says coroner
9:36@skynewsgathererThree witnesses - named only as K, F and G, will give evidence from behind a screen
9:38@skymartinbruntCoroner giving judgement on application for anonymity of some witnesses
9:39@skymartinbruntApplication for witness anonymity signed by Foreign Secretary William Hague
9:40@skymartinbruntCoroner says she has to consider risks to national security
9:41@skymartinbruntAnonymity granted to three witnesses
9:42@skymartinbruntRisk of harm to national security outweighs public interest says coroner
9:45@skymartinbruntCoroner says some evidence will be excluded because of real risk to. national security and international relations
9:46@skymartinbruntExcluded evidence is of only marginal significance to inquest says coroner
9:48@skynewsgathererMedia lawyer now addressing the court. She represents main broadcasters and five newspapers
9:50@skymartinbruntMedia lawyer says death raises many issues about work of intel services
9:53@skymartinbruntMedia lawyer asking for release of exhibits and documents when they are shown to the inquest
9:55@skynewsgathererLawyer argues that exhibits must be released to media to allow information to be reported to wider public
10:24@skynewsgathererBarrister representing media at Gareth Williams inquest has finished her submission to allow release of exhibits
10:32@skymartinbruntMet Police barrister says the difficult and sensitive case may result in criminal proceedings as he argues over release of docs
10:43@skynewsgathererMet Police lawyer says there has to be a balance between open justice on one hand and active investigation on the other
10:47@skymartinbruntForensic scientist who demonstrated getting into a sports hold all does not want video released to media after shown in court
10:49@skymartinbruntCoroner says video was made to avoid live court demonstration which would be "ridiculous."
10:51@skymartinbruntThe bag expert does not want his identity shown in media
10:53@skynewsgathererDolce and Gabbana have objected to CCTV of Gareth Williams in their shop being released to the media
10:58@skynewsgathererOfficer who demonstrated how Gareth Williams could have locked himself into a hold all has asked for video not to be released
11:02@skymartinbruntFamily worried about public release of reconstruction video which would be upsetting
11:06@skymartinbruntFamily don't want anything published "to impede somebody hopefully being brought to account."
11:09@skymartinbruntFamily insist no images to be released of Mr Williams after his death and acknowledges media haven't asked for them
11:15@skymartinbruntCoroner says bag reconstruction is expert evidence of what might have happened if Me Williams was alone
11:21@skymartinbruntCoroner says in principle all video and docs will be released to media, but she will have final say in each case in disputes
11:23@skymartinbruntCoroner taking 5 min break to consider media release of exhibits. Evidence shld begin after that
11:38@skynewsgathererCoronor rules that exhibits can be released to the media providing there are no objections
11:38@skymartinbruntCoroner says all docs will be released unless disputed and she will make a decision
11:39@skynewsgathererInquest into death of Gareth Williams finally getting underway after lengthy legal proceedings
WITNESS: Barry May
11:41@skynewsgathererCoroner's office manager Barry May tells court Gareth Williams was found dead in padlocked hold all in the bath
11:43@skynewsgathererStatement from sister Ceri Subbe now being read to inquest. Gareth was cycling fan and a fell runner. He loved mountains
STATEMENT FROM: Ceri Subbe
11:45@skynewsgathererInquest hearing how Gareth loved cinema and 'adored' music. He also liked fashion and had attended two courses
11:46@skynewsgathererSister describes Gareth as 'perfect big brother'. The family was very close and time together was 'cherished'
11:47@skynewsgathererHis sister thought Gareth was enjoying London but after a while he began to miss the countryside and requested a move back to Cheltenham
11:49@skynewsgathererGareth told his sister of 'friction' in the London office and that he was not enjoying the 'rat race'
11:51@skynewsgathererSister of Gareth Williams says in statement it is impossible to do justice to his wonderful character without having met him
11:53@skynewsgathererThe last time Ceri Subbe met her brother they had a great day out and tea at The Ritz. He seemed happy with life
11:54@skynewsgathererGareth Williams is described as a private person, who enjoyed the countryside rather than the city. He was single when he died
11:56@skynewsgathererThe last time Ceri Subbe spoke to her brother was on the phone on August 13 2010 - he was going to a comedy night
11:56@skymartinbruntSister Ceri Says family can't think why anybody wld harm him
11:58@skynewsgathererCeri Subbe says her brother was a very tidy person. He did not tell his family what he did for a job
12:00@skynewsgathererCeri Subbe is now giving evidence to the coroner in person about her brother Gareth Williams
12:01@skynewsgathererMrs Subbe says Gareth had spoken for sometime about wanting to move back to Cheltenham
12:02@skymartinbruntSister Ceri tells inquest Gareth wanted to leave London and go back to GCHQ
12:02@skynewsgathererMrs Subbe said the job was not what Gareth had expected. There was more red tape than he was happy with, court told
12:03@skynewsgathererThe family had no concerns about Gareth's state of mind. Sister describes him as 'upbeat'
12:04@skymartinbruntCeri says he was never worried about being followed or threatened
12:04@skynewsgathererSister says she had no knowledge that her brother had been threatened in any way
12:05@skynewsgathererSister says she did not know Gareth had 20k worth of women's clothes in his flat. But says she's not surprised. They could have been gifts
12:06@skymartinbruntCeri didn't know about extensive collection of women's clothes
12:08@skymartinbruntSister says his big collection of clothes mirrored big collections of bike and mountain climbing gear
12:10@skynewsgathererCourt hears that on 16 August Gareth missed a meeting he was due to chair. He was usually very reliable
12:11@skymartinbruntSister Ceri said women's clothes could have been for gifts. He was very generous
12:16@skynewsgathererInquest into death of Gareth Williams adjourned for lunch. Resumes at 1415
END OF SESSION 1. Monday Morning, April 23, 2012

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