SESSION 11. Monday Morning, April 30, 2012 | ||
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9:04 | @skynewsgatherer | Gareth's body was removed from the bottom of the bag - not via the zipped opening |
9:05 | @skynewsgatherer | Two hairs were found on Gareth's thumb |
9:08 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Swift says that if someone was already dead when moved there would be no bruising |
WITNESS: Benjamin Swift | ||
9:09 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Swift says that in cases of smothering there are often no marks left |
9:11 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Swift found a 0.6cm bruise to left forearm, graze to left elbow and 0.7 graze to right elbow, and inner left eye socket |
9:12 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Swift says injuries likely to have been caused after death due to position in the bag |
9:14 | @skynewsgatherer | No injuries in Gareth's neck, or head, there were 3 internal bruises to loin, elbow and right chest wall. No bruising around wrists |
9:17 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Swift says injuries could have been caused accidentally. No signs of obvious poisoning |
9:18 | @skynewsgatherer | No obvious signs of natural disease |
9:19 | @skynewsgatherer | Pathologist: No significant traumatic injury, no injuries of offensive or defence nature, no sexual assault |
9:20 | @skynewsgatherer | Pathologist Dr Swift could not confirm cause of death |
9:21 | @skynewsgatherer | Pathologist tells coroner there we no signs from Gareth's finger tips that he tried to get out the bag |
9:23 | @skynewsgatherer | Cause of death could not be ascertained due to decomposition of Gareth's body, pathologist says |
9:26 | @skynewsgatherer | Family lawyer now asking questions about how decomposition affected results of PM. Inquest hears how the heating was on in August |
9:27 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Swift refuses to speculate on what might have caused Gareth's death |
9:29 | @skynewsgatherer | When pushed Dr says asphyxiation and poison were two 'foremost contenders' to be most likely cause of death |
9:33 | @skynewsgatherer | Experienced pathologist Dr Ian Calder performed 2nd PM |
WITNESS: Ian Calder | ||
9:35 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Calder says he agrees with Dr Swift that if Gareth had been moved after death he wouldn't have sustained bruises |
9:36 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Calder agrees that cause of death was 'unascertained' |
9:40 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Calder explains that it's not so much the lack of oxygen in bag - but the build up of carbon dioxide |
9:42 | @skynewsgatherer | CO2 makes people confused which would make someone 'fade away with no pain and increasing lack of awareness of environment' says witness |
9:46 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Calder says 'very likely' cause of death was hypercapnia (too much carbon dioxide in blood) |
9:54 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Richard Shepherd, acting for the coroner, now giving evidence. He agrees with other 2 pathologists |
WITNESS: Richard Shepherd | ||
9:55 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Shepherd found no patterns of injuries and no restraining injuries |
9:56 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Shepherd says it would have been 'extremely difficult' to place a newly dead body into the bag |
9:57 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Shepherd says a person 'playing dead' is not same as an actual dead body. His experience is that it would be 'very difficult process' |
9:58 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr says that if Gareth was alive going in bag he would have expected some 'gripping injuries' |
9:59 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr says it's more likely that Gareth was alive when he entered the bag than dead |
10:01 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr agrees 'mode of dying' was most likely carbon dioxide |
10:03 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr says two possibilities of cause of death were suffocation or poisoning |
10:05 | @skynewsgatherer | Inquest hears that although cause of death is unascertained Gareth's death is 'unnatural' |
10:09 | @stone_skynews | Pathologist says in his opinion Gareth Williams death was unnatural and caused either by poisoning or suffocation because of too much CO2 |
10:09 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr Shepherd says it is possible that Gareth voluntarily got into the bag |
10:11 | @skynewsgatherer | Dr: Gareth would probably have been aware oxygen was running out but not known at what stage this would happen |
10:13 | @skynewsgatherer | Pathologist suggesting Gareth would have known air was running out but he may already have been too affected by Co2 to do anything about it |
10:16 | @skynewsgatherer | To sum up - on balance of probability Gareth was alive getting into bag and would have had some awareness, says witness |
10:17 | @skynewsgatherer | On balance of probability the mode of dying was hypercapnia but cause of death unascertained |
10:25 | @skynewsgatherer | Pathologists says the youngest & fittest can survive hypercapnia the longest |
10:26 | @skynewsgatherer | Inquest taking short break. Then will hear from forensic scientists on DNA evidence |
10:58 | @skynewsgatherer | Inquest resumes with evidence from coroner officer's Barry May |
WITNESS: Barry May | ||
10:59 | @skynewsgatherer | Mr May was asked to investigate by previous coroner after family raised concerns about 2nd PM examination |
11:02 | @skynewsgatherer | Request for 2nd independent PM didn't follow protocol due to inexperience of a worker the coroner's office |
11:07 | @skynewsgatherer | Police, family and first pathologist weren't told of 2nd examination when they should have been |
11:12 | @skynewsgatherer | Inquest told of 'communication breakdown' in the former coroner's office in regard to 2nd PM examination |
11:16 | @skynewsgatherer | Statement now from Tony Larkin, a scientist from forensic firm LGC. He looked of bloodstains, DNA and hairs |
WITNESS: Tony Larkin | ||
11:19 | @skynewsgatherer | Mr Larkin found a spot of blood near lights switch and an 'aged' spot of blood on the floor |
11:23 | @skynewsgatherer | Mr Larkin says possible bloodstain on bag - but very weak result |
11:24 | @skynewsgatherer | Also weak blood spot on the padlock |
11:26 | @skynewsgatherer | Mr Larkin actually works for Met Police - witness list was incorrect |
11:36 | @skynewsgatherer | Inquest hears that an error in logging DNA means that Gareth's family thought there was evidence of 3rd party |
11:37 | @skynewsgatherer | DNA was actually from another scientist - error was only found when case was reviewed |
11:41 | @skynewsgatherer | Inquest now adjourned until 2pm |
END OF SESSION 11. Monday Morning, April 30, 2012 |
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